<3, Because, River said she married the Doctor, but then says to Amy that the universe then doesn't exist. So of course, he's going to one-up the Doctors "romantic" relationship. midwinter-sun:. No doubt the reason SM did put the line in SitL is because so many people did not work it out when watching GitFP and complained how the Doctor left Rose (and Mickey) to die on a spaceship in the 51st Century. Ten's "love" for River wasn't developed for her and expired from her. He will never love River as much as he loved Rose. River, is a time lord too. Both are special to him in a different way but equally important to his growth. That's love. And the other things make them two sides of a coin: they are both psychopat, genius, time lord, hot and flirty (to each other). Remember Angels Take Manhattan. He has feelings for River but ultimetly loves Rose and his wife from when he still lived in Gallifrey.End of discussion. And she is professor (higher than the doctor) and she knows a lot about the doctors past and future, and this make doctor proud of her and respect her. And Doctor.. "Last one positive." Sort of. And the doctor always is there. I agree. River. He cares her so much. That's such a great power but she managed to keep alive with it. She is genius as doctor. Because everything started with them and it was just so beautiful. When They Met For The First And Last Time. The love for River transcendent doctors. And also say last thing about Clara, isn't she like a machine, cold, nothing special of her? No matter what Doctor it is he will ALWAYS love Rose. It's enough that he did love them. He's biologically, technically, whatever you want, the same being, but his personality, looks, and reactions are all different. They were perfect!!!! I mean, he burned up a star to see her one last time and say goodbye. If the Doctor married River in a time that never actually happened, what's to say he ever married her. Of course they are differen! She absorbed the time vortex, she looked in the tardis' heart. Doctor is a time lord and he is a genius. I don't think the Doctor was in love with Rose. I don't think people really seem to look at those details and realise how much they mean. he said just as there was an explosion outside. With the Eleventh Doctor now passed into Whovian memory, it would seem that the Era of River Song has ended as well. "Wrong. I feel as if he loved Rose more. And while it should be bittersweet, it is also honestly something of a relief. Wrong. When you see the thirteenth episode it will become clear. I hate those fics where the Doctor would just be head over heels for Rose when River would be RIGHT THERE. She was the first face he saw in two regenerations, and the last he said goodbye to. I am inclined to say Rose. What about Let's Kill Hitler? I didn’t like what Moffat gave us: A psychopathic, flat, feisty, flirty, angry, … The Doctor said and I sighed, shaking my head as he pulled me along the Museum; looking through all the glass cabinets, smirking. gooday and good night.And Romana beats both of em she is smarter prettier and braver.also a Time Lord.Watch the classic series.Just sayin, River Song, its adorable how akward he act when they kiss! The 10th Doctor was much more human and mature, the 11th is much more alien and childlike. They may be the same person, but they are very different. He can just hear randomly without even hearing that song. And we saw at the last episode Doctor kiss her (never did before with any of women) and called her his wife. Measuring the intensity of love seems like a futile effort. Keep in mind that Nine, Ten, and Eleven are very different. And I think River has a hand about that. 10 AND 11 HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES!!! They are math. A companion goes and does what doctor says. So Rose is like the rebound holiday romance with whom you share something unique, passionate and wonderful - but fleeting - with, River is the person you marry. The Doctor is in a paralal universe with rose but he is human and will die there with her. It also allowed us to see the true love from River. And it is true, no one will love him more than her. The Doctor never tells anybody else his real name at all. There is no chance he has to take. I whole-heartedly agree. Rose bid farewell to fans in 2010 when she became trapped in a parallel universe. But Rose was just a child for him. And sincerely the Doctor has so many affairs he also loved the TARDIS when he had no one else his only true companion was the TARDIS. I think you could argue that The Doctor wasn't in love with Rose (in a romantic way). I would say Clara even though he married River Song. In fact in the series 4 finale, his Duplicate confesses that love to … But River had her own adventures and invite doctor to come with her. River can take care of herself I guess. River was clearly in love with him. Thankyou!!!! He did love Rose. thank you someone who is makeing sense.I mean come on do you watch the show!!? 11 loves River. I think it wasn't just 'flirting'. Also on that point he would know that time would never of happened so he did it just to get everything back to normal. The meta-crisis Doctor and Rose decide to take a little family Holiday in Rose's home dimension, riding in on a time machine that looks remarkably like a 1926 Bentley. So if you think you know you have no clue. Aziraphale gets into the wrong car and the unsuspecting doctor is mistaken by the angel for Crowley (who overslept and forgot to pick him up). i agree with all of ya but did 11 not say 'Dorium i'm a time traveler, i can help Rose Tyler with her homework'. This is obviously a symbolic reveal that the Doctor did have feelings for Cameca after all, and wasn’t ready to let her go. I only pity her. :|. She's always been much to pretentious for my liking anyway. Rose was an important person to The Doctor, especially for 9, but it's not her photo the Doctor keeps on his desk. Okay, they were very cute together but it wasn't fair. His fellow traveller of Time who really gets it. Honestly, Moffatt has the need to make every companion the most important person in the entire galaxy all the time. And like Moffat said, "He loves his River.". She didn't show her wrist because she wanted him to be happy about "Okay, she escaped there. Whereas Eleven and Twelve, having had several centuries to move on from losing Rose, loves River as someone much more on his level, as a fellow time traveller, as an intellectual equal, as someone with just as much agency as he does. In my view, the Doctor just sees River as an object of flirting rather than someone to love and cherish. River doesn't compare to her what so ever. tl;dr: He did love Rose, now he loves River. He says that it's not just your body that changes, it's the personality, and how they act, I agree, I mean he uses up a generation of his life just to heal River's wrist. It's sad be because she only gets 3 appearances after that, but Mels (for whatever reason) loved the Doctor and wnted to marry him. Not yet registered? He married River Song. I love museums." River is undeniable he cant get rid of her like song stuck in his head. He loves Rose. I liked what Moffat promised: A well-thought out, complex character, forced to live her life backwards to the people she loved, who genuinely cared about people and her Doctor. DOCTOR Who fans believe Billie Piper’s character Rose Tyler could be returning to the show. I think he loved River deeply as his wife. With Doctor and River? Also that's an action big enough to cause the Doctor to die/ regenerate. 1 The Doctor: Leaving Jark Harkness Stranded He knows she and him will be together and that she will die. River married the man in whose Tardis he was born. The Doctor loves The Doctor the most. Sign in with one of these options: Cookies help us bring you Fanpop. Two different loves, Rose and the doctors love was more entertaining, imo. What makes doctor , The doctor is same. We've always been told how much The Doctor loves River, e.g. A future Rose who had travelled back to that same day with the Doctor was present for these events, and interacted with her infant self, unleashing the Reapers. The Doctor's line to Rose about waiting 5 and a half hours before leaving implies it anyway. I also think it really just depends on who is writing/running the show at the time. I'll ship the Doctor/River well over a million times over before I'd ship the Doctor/Rose. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. River ultimately was family. Btw TARDIS-Granger, would yiu like me to actually write a list of how 10 and 11 are different???????? It made me cry. I been watching some episodes of the tenth Doctor, and it has me thinking who does the Doctor love more. ok this is how it was and is... Rose was one of a kind and the doctor will always love her. Press J to jump to the feed. I really did enjoy it. Ten loved Rose, but much more in a crush kind of way. But when he realised River's wrist, he was very worried about her.He forgot Amy and Rory just a while. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Perraonality traits may have changed. She uses gun, doctor uses screwdriver. He loved Rose more than anyone and even though he has accepted that she is happy somewhere else and they're never going to be together he still loves her more. That's all that stays constant. Please, the difference between David's Doctor and Matt's Doctor stretches as far and wide as the inside of the TARDIS itself. But Rose let the whole time and space in her mind. Doctor wears bow tie and River generally night dress. Rose loved him, certainly, but I'm pretty sure it was unrequited for most of series 1 and 2. He waste some of his regeneration energy to fix her wrist. Silence in the Library...She died saving him. I´d also say that 10 was in love with Rose. :-). They are born for each other. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That's exactly what happened with the Doctor. Doctor loved Rose without a doubt. I pity her and the character arcs she was given. You are right about River, but that cinematic run and that childish giggle hearing Rose was trying to come back from parallel world - yeah, I'm not sure you can. He is cursed for that reason. Doctor loves Rose. He knows she and him will be together and that she will die. The Doctor explained that both universes could collapse if he did so, but this only prompted a nonchalant “So?” from Rose. She later shot and killed him, which would also be considered a dealbreaker for most couples, but in this case led to marriage! 10 LOVES Rose and knows it, but I reckon 11 doesn't realize he still LOVES Rose because River is confusing him. When game over, you can restart from the beginning. I think 9 and Rose were much better. That being said, I would say that Rose had the love and lust from a new relationship and River had the strong wife vibe. Interesting example to give, when he didn't allow her to break her wrist. That being said, I would say that Rose had the love and lust from a new relationship and River had the strong wife vibe. But he had to let her go - she is happy with the Metacrisis Doctor now. I know Ten liked to tell Rose how special and different she was, but Ten was very emotional in general. We will see again River, maybe in different face. <3 <3. In Manhatten and then Trenzalore, you can see him love her back. He was furious that it was going to happen, and elated when he thought it hadn't. Jan 8, 2021 - Explore Jess's board "11th Doctor Art" on Pinterest. River though, he cared for on a much deeper level. River and Doctor appeared to be forced so in my eyes Doctor loves Rose more. 9 somehow filled with bitterness and angry. "That was a projection of the Angel. So, according to me, the Doctor's one true love is Melody Pond. I see Rose as the human the The Doctor "stole" to heal his heart after the ravages of the Time War. But they are two very different sorts of love. For Rose you knew he loved her with his heart and soul and their love grew. There is no surprise... it's somewhat like dictated fate or a prophecy of sorts. He has just moved on and has feelings for River but Rose will always be the one. While 10 was way more foregiving. River Song is his wife! I love 11xRiver a lot more than 10xRose, but I can appreciate that they were in love too. Rose is not just a child who needs help. We get that she was in love with him, but for her to suggest he go through with killing all of life just because she wanted a boyfriend was the worst thing she could have said. But he never, for example, would have let Rose break her own wrist to escape a Weeping Angel. 9-Rose was just friends but 10-Rose... First, Rose was just 19, and Doctor was 900! I'd rather neither i mean i hate River, their "love"seems sorta one-way with that flirt. And after watching "Angels Take Manhattan" I think he really cares about River... Well, you have to remember, The Doctor told River his real name. River said and I smiled as the Doctor let me go and began to scan the plug as Amy hugged me tightly. Nothing about the Doctor’s relationship with River Song was normal. how can ppl nit get tht he love her more dont denynit. ( Unless he loses his memory, but it happened once and yet he still remembered Rose, altough he didnt know who she is) ANYWAY. By using Fanpop, you agree to our use of cookies. He clearly deeply cared for her and was upset for a long time after Doomsday. According to doctor (may be he liked him very much) Rose is a child who needs help. He loved her so much that he couldn't let himself love her for fear of how much it would hurt him when she was gone. Well Rivers not an awful selfish chav so the answer seems obvious. See more ideas about doctor who, doctor, dr who. TEn would chop off both of his arms for Rose, we all know that, but Eleven… I don’t know. Even if he tells her his name, he knows she won't abuse it because she will die when she is still in love with him. It never felt like love more like simple flirting. River. I think that in the 50th anniversary episode we will be able to tell whom the doctor cares for more. So OBVIOUSLY they get married again, Yeah, in Silence in the library, River whispers his name into his ear and that is when he beleives that she is somebody important, But I think you miss the IMPORTANT Little picture while you're dealing with the bigger picture. But if we consider the Doctor/Rose and Doctor/River relationship from a time-neutral perspective, I would have to say that the Doctor loves River more. She is like a game. 11 likes River, but Rose is the best. Professor Berenice 'surprise' Summerfield. I agree. Yeah Ten loves Rose 11 no longer but remembers her fondly 11 loves River and Ten is wondering who the heck River is. ITS SIMPLE!!! Rose was born in London (TV: The Doctor Dances) to Jackie (TV: Rose) and Pete Tyler (TV: Father's Day) around 1986. I never honestly felt the love between River and the Doctor. He loved them both, for different reasons and in different ways. She is doctor and later professor. It's reaching out, getting a good look at us. Best example is the change from 9 to 10. Imo I don't think it's fair to compare the Rose-10th relationship to the River-11th relationship, because for all intents and purposes 10th and 11th are two different people. River because he was actually clearly in love with her. They were both of his hearts... Something to say? Especially on Darillium - where they spent 24 years together - there's definitley love between them. Nevertheless with every regeneration the character changes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. AND HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS, IS THAT SO HARD TO GET OVER? The Doctor trusted River, in the end, and likely relied on her more. Allow her to break her own wrist to escape a Weeping Angel there was an explosion outside can., 2019 - Explore Danielle Book 's board `` 11th Doctor, dr who know were! 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